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Please help me articulate this query

Derek Springer
Hey all,
I'm having trouble articulating a query and I'm hopeful someone out there
can help me out :)

My situation is this: I am indexing a series of questions that can either be
asked from a main question entry page, or a specific subject page. I have a
field called "referring" which indexes the title of the specific subject
page, plus the regular question whenever that document is submitted from a
specific specific subject page. Otherwise, every document is indexed with
just the question.

Specifically, what I am trying to do is when I am on the page specific
subject page (e.g. Tom Cruise) I want to search for all of the questions
asked from that page, plus any question asked about Tom Cruise. Something
like:
q=(referring:Tom AND Cruise) OR (question:Tom AND Cruise)

"Have you ever used a Tom Tom?" - Not returned
"Where is the best place to take a cruise?" - Not returned
"When did he have is first kid?" - Returned iff question was asked from Tom
Cruise page
"Do you think that Tom Cruise will make more movies?" - Always returned

Any thoughts?

-Derek
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Re: Please help me articulate this query

Stephen Weiss-2
I think in this case you would want to index each question with the  
possible referrers ( by title might be too imprecise, I'd go with  
filename or ID) and then do a search like this (assuming in this case  
it's by filename)

q=(referring:TomCruise.html) OR (question: Tom AND Cruise)

Which seems to be what you're thinking.

I would make the referrer a type "string" though so that you don't  
accidentally pull in documents from a different subject (Tom Cruise  
this would work ok, but imagine you need to distinguish between George  
Washington and George Washington Carver).

--
Steve


On Dec 15, 2008, at 2:59 PM, Derek Springer wrote:

> Hey all,
> I'm having trouble articulating a query and I'm hopeful someone out  
> there
> can help me out :)
>
> My situation is this: I am indexing a series of questions that can  
> either be
> asked from a main question entry page, or a specific subject page. I  
> have a
> field called "referring" which indexes the title of the specific  
> subject
> page, plus the regular question whenever that document is submitted  
> from a
> specific specific subject page. Otherwise, every document is indexed  
> with
> just the question.
>
> Specifically, what I am trying to do is when I am on the page specific
> subject page (e.g. Tom Cruise) I want to search for all of the  
> questions
> asked from that page, plus any question asked about Tom Cruise.  
> Something
> like:
> q=(referring:Tom AND Cruise) OR (question:Tom AND Cruise)
>
> "Have you ever used a Tom Tom?" - Not returned
> "Where is the best place to take a cruise?" - Not returned
> "When did he have is first kid?" - Returned iff question was asked  
> from Tom
> Cruise page
> "Do you think that Tom Cruise will make more movies?" - Always  
> returned
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> -Derek

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Re: Please help me articulate this query

Derek Springer
Thanks for the tip, I appreciate it!

However, does anyone know how to articulate the syntax of "(This AND That)
OR (Something AND Else)" into a query string?

i.e. q=referring:### AND question:###

On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Stephen Weiss <[hidden email]>wrote:

> I think in this case you would want to index each question with the
> possible referrers ( by title might be too imprecise, I'd go with filename
> or ID) and then do a search like this (assuming in this case it's by
> filename)
>
> q=(referring:TomCruise.html) OR (question: Tom AND Cruise)
>
> Which seems to be what you're thinking.
>
> I would make the referrer a type "string" though so that you don't
> accidentally pull in documents from a different subject (Tom Cruise this
> would work ok, but imagine you need to distinguish between George Washington
> and George Washington Carver).
>
> --
> Steve
>
>
>
> On Dec 15, 2008, at 2:59 PM, Derek Springer wrote:
>
>  Hey all,
>> I'm having trouble articulating a query and I'm hopeful someone out there
>> can help me out :)
>>
>> My situation is this: I am indexing a series of questions that can either
>> be
>> asked from a main question entry page, or a specific subject page. I have
>> a
>> field called "referring" which indexes the title of the specific subject
>> page, plus the regular question whenever that document is submitted from a
>> specific specific subject page. Otherwise, every document is indexed with
>> just the question.
>>
>> Specifically, what I am trying to do is when I am on the page specific
>> subject page (e.g. Tom Cruise) I want to search for all of the questions
>> asked from that page, plus any question asked about Tom Cruise. Something
>> like:
>> q=(referring:Tom AND Cruise) OR (question:Tom AND Cruise)
>>
>> "Have you ever used a Tom Tom?" - Not returned
>> "Where is the best place to take a cruise?" - Not returned
>> "When did he have is first kid?" - Returned iff question was asked from
>> Tom
>> Cruise page
>> "Do you think that Tom Cruise will make more movies?" - Always returned
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> -Derek
>>
>
>
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Re: Please help me articulate this query

Otis Gospodnetic-2
Derek,

q=+referring:XXX +question:YYY


(of course, you'll have to URL-encode that query string0

Otis
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Sematext -- http://sematext.com/ -- Lucene - Solr - Nutch



----- Original Message ----

> From: Derek Springer <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 3:40:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Please help me articulate this query
>
> Thanks for the tip, I appreciate it!
>
> However, does anyone know how to articulate the syntax of "(This AND That)
> OR (Something AND Else)" into a query string?
>
> i.e. q=referring:### AND question:###
>
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Stephen Weiss wrote:
>
> > I think in this case you would want to index each question with the
> > possible referrers ( by title might be too imprecise, I'd go with filename
> > or ID) and then do a search like this (assuming in this case it's by
> > filename)
> >
> > q=(referring:TomCruise.html) OR (question: Tom AND Cruise)
> >
> > Which seems to be what you're thinking.
> >
> > I would make the referrer a type "string" though so that you don't
> > accidentally pull in documents from a different subject (Tom Cruise this
> > would work ok, but imagine you need to distinguish between George Washington
> > and George Washington Carver).
> >
> > --
> > Steve
> >
> >
> >
> > On Dec 15, 2008, at 2:59 PM, Derek Springer wrote:
> >
> >  Hey all,
> >> I'm having trouble articulating a query and I'm hopeful someone out there
> >> can help me out :)
> >>
> >> My situation is this: I am indexing a series of questions that can either
> >> be
> >> asked from a main question entry page, or a specific subject page. I have
> >> a
> >> field called "referring" which indexes the title of the specific subject
> >> page, plus the regular question whenever that document is submitted from a
> >> specific specific subject page. Otherwise, every document is indexed with
> >> just the question.
> >>
> >> Specifically, what I am trying to do is when I am on the page specific
> >> subject page (e.g. Tom Cruise) I want to search for all of the questions
> >> asked from that page, plus any question asked about Tom Cruise. Something
> >> like:
> >> q=(referring:Tom AND Cruise) OR (question:Tom AND Cruise)
> >>
> >> "Have you ever used a Tom Tom?" - Not returned
> >> "Where is the best place to take a cruise?" - Not returned
> >> "When did he have is first kid?" - Returned iff question was asked from
> >> Tom
> >> Cruise page
> >> "Do you think that Tom Cruise will make more movies?" - Always returned
> >>
> >> Any thoughts?
> >>
> >> -Derek
> >>
> >
> >

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Re: Please help me articulate this query

Derek Springer
Excellent, thank you! :)

-Derek

On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 8:45 PM, Otis Gospodnetic <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Derek,
>
> q=+referring:XXX +question:YYY
>
>
> (of course, you'll have to URL-encode that query string0
>
> Otis
> --
> Sematext -- http://sematext.com/ -- Lucene - Solr - Nutch
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Derek Springer <[hidden email]>
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 3:40:55 PM
> > Subject: Re: Please help me articulate this query
> >
> > Thanks for the tip, I appreciate it!
> >
> > However, does anyone know how to articulate the syntax of "(This AND
> That)
> > OR (Something AND Else)" into a query string?
> >
> > i.e. q=referring:### AND question:###
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Stephen Weiss wrote:
> >
> > > I think in this case you would want to index each question with the
> > > possible referrers ( by title might be too imprecise, I'd go with
> filename
> > > or ID) and then do a search like this (assuming in this case it's by
> > > filename)
> > >
> > > q=(referring:TomCruise.html) OR (question: Tom AND Cruise)
> > >
> > > Which seems to be what you're thinking.
> > >
> > > I would make the referrer a type "string" though so that you don't
> > > accidentally pull in documents from a different subject (Tom Cruise
> this
> > > would work ok, but imagine you need to distinguish between George
> Washington
> > > and George Washington Carver).
> > >
> > > --
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Dec 15, 2008, at 2:59 PM, Derek Springer wrote:
> > >
> > >  Hey all,
> > >> I'm having trouble articulating a query and I'm hopeful someone out
> there
> > >> can help me out :)
> > >>
> > >> My situation is this: I am indexing a series of questions that can
> either
> > >> be
> > >> asked from a main question entry page, or a specific subject page. I
> have
> > >> a
> > >> field called "referring" which indexes the title of the specific
> subject
> > >> page, plus the regular question whenever that document is submitted
> from a
> > >> specific specific subject page. Otherwise, every document is indexed
> with
> > >> just the question.
> > >>
> > >> Specifically, what I am trying to do is when I am on the page specific
> > >> subject page (e.g. Tom Cruise) I want to search for all of the
> questions
> > >> asked from that page, plus any question asked about Tom Cruise.
> Something
> > >> like:
> > >> q=(referring:Tom AND Cruise) OR (question:Tom AND Cruise)
> > >>
> > >> "Have you ever used a Tom Tom?" - Not returned
> > >> "Where is the best place to take a cruise?" - Not returned
> > >> "When did he have is first kid?" - Returned iff question was asked
> from
> > >> Tom
> > >> Cruise page
> > >> "Do you think that Tom Cruise will make more movies?" - Always
> returned
> > >>
> > >> Any thoughts?
> > >>
> > >> -Derek
> > >>
> > >
> > >
>
>